The World Is (Still) Drowning in Sludge
24 June - 54 minsInsurance forms that make no sense. Subscriptions that can’t be cancelled. A never-ending blizzard of automated notifications. In this update of a 2025 episode, Stephen Dubner discovers where all this sludge comes from — and how much it’s costing us.
SOURCES:
Benjamin Handel, professor of economics at UC Berkeley.
Neale Mahoney, professor of economics at Stanford University.
Richard Thaler, professor of economics at The University of Chicago.
RESOURCES:
"Selling Subscriptions," by Liran Einav, Ben Klopack, and Neale Mahoney (Stanford University, 2023).
"The ‘Enshittification’ of TikTok," by Cory Doctorow (WIRED, 2023).
"Dominated Options in Healt...
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