The New Economics of AI | Martin Casado & Steven Sinofsky

Anish Acharya joins Jen Kha to break down the next frontier of AI, from the evolving model landscape and open-source AI to why the application layer, and consumer AI in particular, may be entering a new phase. Anish explains why he believes there will be multiple winners at the model layer, why traditional moats like network effects, scale, and brand still matter, and how companies can choose between frontier and open-weight models depending on the economics of the task. They also explore why models are increasingly specializing, and how applications can combine different types of intelligence to create products that are more valuable than any single model. The conversation then turns to consumer AI: personal agents that can shop and manage your inbox, coding tools enabling a new generation of small businesses, and why Anish thinks we're seeing a renaissance for consumer builders. They also discuss the changing economics of AI software, the rise of "luxury software," and why the biggest risk for today's founders may no longer be thinking too big, but thinking too small.

Daisy Wolf and Eva Steinman are joined by Engy Ziedan, co-founder and Chief Scientific Officer of Protege, to discuss why medical AI has a measurement problem, and why scoring well on a benchmark doesn't necessarily mean a model is ready for the hospital. Engy explains why healthcare AI needs independent evaluations that go beyond static exams and measure how models actually perform in real-world clinical workflows. They explore the risks of subtle bias and misalignment, why the same model can rank differently depending on how it's prompted or tested, and what happens as AI becomes more personalized and changes faster than traditional healthcare quality systems can keep up. The conversation also gets into Protege's role as an independent evaluator, how contaminated training data can undermine benchmarks, and why the future of medical AI may require continuous monitoring rather than occasional testing.

Martin Casado joins MTS hosts Theo Jaffee and Sophia Dew to unpack where value is actually accruing in AI, why this technology cycle looks fundamentally different from previous waves, and whether the frontier labs will ultimately capture most of the market. Martin explains why AI has turned venture into a scale-up capital game, where small teams can productively deploy extraordinary amounts of money, and why the relationship between capital, innovation, and growth has never been tighter. He lays out the case both for and against the frontier labs dominating AI, the role of open-source and specialist models, and why applications are increasingly capturing more value. The conversation also explores model routing, AI economics, founder-market fit, and why Martin believes this may be the biggest unlock of wealth he's seen since the 1990s.

a16z's Joel De La Garza is joined by Aaron Zollman, Deputy CISO at Microsoft Gaming, to discuss how security teams can embrace AI agents without losing control. Aaron shares Microsoft's experience with OpenClaw, from the initial instinct to ban it to figuring out how to make it safe to use. They unpack what agents mean for identity, permissions, containerization, and monitoring, as well as how AI is shifting the CISO's role from saying "no" to safely enabling new technology. They also explore whether AI could help defenders patch vulnerabilities as quickly as they're discovered, and why new AI threats don't make the old security problems go away.

Elena Burger is joined by a16z’s Angela Strange and Gabriel Vasquez to discuss the rise of the "borderless founder": entrepreneurs who bring the networks and insights of their home markets together with the talent, capital, and speed of Silicon Valley to build global companies. Angela and Gabriel trace how a16z's international investing efforts grew from early work in Latin America into a broader global network, and why AI has accelerated the flow of founders and talent between Silicon Valley and startup ecosystems around the world. They explore the advantages borderless founders can bring, from differentiated talent networks and early customers to strong local brands and communities that help open doors across markets. They also discuss how founder diasporas can function like powerful alumni networks, why spending time in Silicon Valley can help founders recalibrate around speed and ambition, and how the next generation of global companies may increasingly be built across multiple countries from day one.