E144: Pamela Des Barres on the GTOs + Peter Asher audio + Jeff Beck R.I.P. Image

E144: Pamela Des Barres on the GTOs + Peter Asher audio + Jeff Beck R.I.P.

16 January 2023 - 56 mins
Podcast Series Rock's Backpages

In this episode we welcome the truly legendary Pamela Des Barres, all the way from her native San Fernando Valley, and invite her to reminisce about the all-girl GTOs, Frank Zappa, Lowell George... and plenty more besides.

The bestselling author of 1987's groupie confessional I'm With The Band describes how she entered the Laurel Canyon orbit of ringmaster Zappa, and how the motley troupe he christened Girls Together Outrageously came into being. The former Miss Pamela talks about her fellow "Misses" Mercy and Christine, then describes the sessions for the group's unruly 1969 classic Permanent Damage. This leads on to a discussion of the Groupie phenomenon and its problematic nature in the...

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