How I Built This with Guy Raz

Before Gymboree became a cultural icon in the 80s and 90s, it was just one lonely new mom trying to find connection. Joan Barnes started hosting weekly playgroups for parents… and demand exploded. What began as a diversion became a business. Then a franchise. Then a brand everyone seemed to know, with its padded playrooms and parachute games.  From the outside, it looked like a runaway success: hundreds of locations, glowing press coverage, celebrity buzz. But inside, the franchise model was failing. A potential Hasbro rescue vanished overnight. And Joan—while smiling for the world—was breaking under the pressure. Then came a major pivot that helped turn Gymboree around. The company was going to survive, but Joan realized she might not. She stepped away for good, to fight for her health.  In this episode, Joan talks frankly about building Gymboree, losing control of it, and learning some vital lessons about ambition, balance, and humility.  What You’ll LearnThe hidden math of franchising: when scale makes you weaker, not strongerHow—years before social media—Joan used the media as her marketing engine The moment Gymboree nearly died—and the brilliant pivot that saved itWhat it feels like to be celebrated publicly while privately falling apartWhy “more hustle” can be a trap Timestamps:  (Timecodes are approximate and may shift depending on platform.)[08:20] “Lonely and isolated”—The new-mom need that sparked Joan’s first playgroup[13:43] The early days: parachute games, circle songs, and connecting with other parents[16:59] The first, $3,000 investment, and expanding to new venues.[23:08] Learning the hard way: “I didn’t even know what franchise meant.” [38:40] Joan discovers her business model has a terrifying Catch-22[45:05] A humiliating gut punch: Hasbro calls off a life-saving deal [50:15] The pivot to profitability: play centers + clothing stores[1:03:00] Success on the outside, collapse on the inside: panic, addiction, treatment [1:14:17] After Gymboree: yoga studios, recovery, and redefining success Hey—want to be a guest on HIBT? If you’re building a business, why not get advice from some of the greatest entrepreneurs on Earth? Every Thursday on the HIBT Advice Line, a previous HIBT guest helps new entrepreneurs work through the challenges they’re facing right now. Advice that’s smart, actionable, and absolutely free. Just call 1-800-433-1298, leave a message, and you may soon get guidance from someone who started where you did, and went on to build something massive. So—give us a call. We can’t wait to hear what you’re working on. This episode was produced by Chris Maccini with music composed by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Neva Grant with research by Rommel Wood. Our engineers were Jimmy Keeley and Patrick Murray. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Warby Parker co-founder Neil Blumenthal joins Guy on the Advice Line, where they answer questions from three early-stage entrepreneurs. Plus, how AI integrations with glasses are helping us see the world in a whole new way. First we meet Kimber in Utah, who wants to take her chewable toothpaste gummies mainstream. Then Brian in California, who’s wondering how to vet franchisees for his light therapy studios. And Tanner in Tennessee, who needs help building a team he can trust to scale his country club-inspired lifestyle brand. Thank you to the founders of Pearl Pop, Salt and Light Wellness, and Cowboy Country Club for being a part of our show. If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode, leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to [email protected] or call 1-800-433-1298. And be sure to listen to Warby Parker’s founding story as told by Neil and his co-founder Dave on the show in 2016. This episode was produced by Sam Paulson with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by John Isabella. Our audio engineer was Cena Loffredo. You can follow HIBT on X & Instagram and sign up for Guy’s free newsletter at guyraz.com or on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When Todd Carmichael and J.P. Iberti met at a grunge concert in Seattle in the 1980s, they were an unlikely pair. But they shared a love for great coffee, and the two friends began to dream about opening a cafe and premium roastery that would produce coffee at a higher quality than anything in the U.S. at the time. A few years later, Todd and J.P. co-founded La Colombe in Philadelphia, and went on to play a leading role in the third wave of specialty coffee in the U.S. Today, their coffee drinks are sold in stores across the country, and in 2023, La Colombe was acquired by Chobani for $900M.   TIMESTAMPS: 0:11:22 - Learning barista basics: like being a DJ  0:25:25 - Todd squats at JP’s place, they set out to sell coffee0:29:48 - How La Colombe gets its name0:32:40 - Launching the business in a city they've never visited0:35:49 - The first roastery: no ventilation, visits from the fire department0:40:29 - Pitching the coffee–uninvited–at a top French restaurant 0:46:48 - The trick to making a perfect espresso0:53:30 - Todd takes a sabbatical: “I was suffering from my brain.” 0:57:40 - Expanding to more cafes and a shift from roasting to hosting1:01:17 - An impasse with investors, and a bailout from Chobani’s founder 1:09:38 - Small Business Spotlight Hey—want to be a guest on HIBT?   If you’re building a business, why not get advice from some of the greatest entrepreneurs on Earth ? Every Thursday on the HIBT Advice Line, A previous HIBT guest helps new entrepreneurs work through the challenges they’re facing right now. Advice that’s smart, actionable, and absolutely free.  Just call 1-800-433-1298, leave a message, and you may soon get guidance from someone who started where you did, and went on to build something massive.  So—give us a call. We can’t wait to hear what you’re working on. —------------------------------------------ This episode was produced by Casey Herman with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Sarah Sarasohn. Our audio engineer was Jimmy Keeley. You can follow HIBT on Twitter & Instagram and sign up for Guy's free newsletter at guyraz.com and on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Patreon co-founder and CEO Jack Conte joins Guy on the Advice Line, where they answer questions from three early-stage founders about marketing and building community. First we meet Zac from Indiana, who’s looking to grow his coffee company with a subscription offering for newlyweds. Then Rowena from New York, who wants to expand her international cooking kits for kids to all ages. And Melissa from Florida, who’s hoping to break into schools with her handwriting program for preschoolers. And stick around to the end to hear whether the callers took Guy and Jack's advice. Thank you to the founders of Honey Moon Coffee Co., Eat2Explore, and Adventures in Handwriting for being a part of our show. If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode, leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to [email protected] or call 1-800-433-1298. And be sure to listen to Patreon’s founding story as told by Jack and his co-founder Sam Yam on the show in 2021. This episode was produced by Chris Maccini with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by John Isabella. Our audio engineer was Gilly Moon. You can follow HIBT on X & Instagram and sign up for Guy's free newsletter at guyraz.com. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It started with a massive pile of razors sitting in a Rancho Cucomonga warehouse, and Michael Dubin’s chance meeting of the man who wanted to get rid of them. In 2010, Michael was working in marketing in Los Angeles, producing online video content. As a hobby, Michael took improv comedy classes. At a holiday party, he met a man named Mark Levine. Mark was looking for ideas to sell razors he had imported, but didn’t know how to unload. Michael’s background in video and comedy helped him create a viral launch video for his spontaneous idea: an internet razor subscription brand called Dollar Shave Club. Five years after launching, Dollar Shave Club sold to consumer products behemoth Unilever for a reported $1 billion in cash. This episode was recorded in front of a live audience in Los Angeles. What you’ll learn:How Michael’s early career at NBC in New York exposed him to a world of video production - and comedyThe fateful party where Michael had to decide whether to start a company to sell razors - or to sell cake slicersHow Michael’s gut feeling was that shaving was a sector that could use disruption - even though it meant facing down daunting incumbent players like GilletteMichael’s viral launch video was so good, it brought investors on boardHow to DIY fulfillment to keep an overnight success on trackHow expanding their offerings into other men’s grooming products caught the attention of Unilever and led to an acquisition offer Listen now to hear the amazing backstory of one of the best-known early DTC brands. ------------ Hey—want to be a guest on HIBT? If you’re building a business, why not get advice from some of the greatest entrepreneurs on Earth? Every Thursday on the HIBT Advice Line, a previous HIBT guest helps new entrepreneurs work through the challenges they’re facing right now. Advice that’s smart, actionable, and absolutely free. Just call 1-800-433-1298, leave a message, and you may soon get guidance from someone who started where you did, and went on to build something massive. So—give us a call. We can’t wait to hear what you’re working on. —----------- This episode was produced by Casey Herman with music composed by Ramtin Arablouei. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.